1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,600 Your name is Mr. Otto Binder? 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:04,600 That's right, yeah. 3 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:05,600 Do you explain that? 4 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:06,600 Do you believe in these sources? 5 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:07,600 I believe in the extent that people have seen definite objects. 6 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:19,600 The earthenings of hallucinations and March gas and whatever they offer are definitely 7 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,600 a cover-up for the fact that there are some kind of object. 8 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,800 But what the objects are, I have nothing to say. 9 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:29,200 I can give you my opinion. 10 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:34,600 My opinion is that the likelihood, the strongest possibility I can think of of all the theories 11 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,600 I've seen is that they are simply people in the modern space. 12 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:39,600 That becomes the most logical one to me. 13 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:44,600 There's a simple reason that having been in the science into this whole space field 14 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:50,400 for many, many years and having only been interested in UFOs, let's say, for the last 15 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:56,600 year and a half, to tie in on that astronomers and scientists all over the world now have 16 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,600 the chance that there are millions of civilized worlds throughout the universe. 17 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,600 That is, the probability is very, very high. 18 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:09,600 The next step is to assume that many of these civilizations and they also admit are many, 19 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:17,000 many thousands of years older than us and ours and technology is very great and there 20 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,600 is no reason to suppose that they don't have ships here. 21 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,200 In other words, it becomes a negative way of looking at it. 22 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:27,800 Logically, with millions of worlds on base, that's the science end of it. 23 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,200 The scientist doesn't dare go further except for private. 24 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:32,200 A lot of them are private too. 25 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:33,200 What is your profession? 26 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:34,200 A science writer. 27 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:35,200 You're a science writer. 28 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,200 What magazine was that again? 29 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:38,200 Space World. 30 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:43,200 I had it for quite a few years and had about two dozen books published. 31 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,200 Is there anything you're working on recently now that anybody can pick up on? 32 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,200 Yes, in the science. 33 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:57,200 Articles in Space World magazine and all that's coming up in Mechanic Solstrate. 34 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:01,200 I can't keep track of which ones now are coming up. 35 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:06,200 One of the men's magazines is called Gem of the Spot UFOs Incident. 36 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:07,200 In real magazine? 37 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:08,200 I've noticed a lot of it. 38 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:09,200 Oh, not in real. 39 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:15,200 I will have something in fact science articles as well as UFO articles in National Empire. 40 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,200 That's a tabloid thing, you know. 41 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:23,200 I noticed you have a lot of these pictures on display that you were selling tonight. 42 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:31,200 Those are the original of my syndicated panel which appears in about a hundred newspapers. 43 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:36,200 About sixty an American, forty porn. 44 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:41,200 Appears daily, six days a week and started in 1960s, we're going all this time. 45 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,200 What publication could I see this in now? 46 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:44,200 I want them to see these. 47 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:48,200 The nearest one in this area, the big New York papers don't have it. 48 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,200 The nearest one in this area is Patterson, New Jersey. 49 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:52,200 Patterson, New Jersey? 50 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,200 Morning call or something like that? 51 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:55,200 Patterson, New England News. 52 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,200 Patterson, New England News. 53 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,200 Are these for sale today? 54 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,200 The originals are, yes sir. 55 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,200 Where would we be able to purchase these other than here today? 56 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:11,200 Well, Jim Mosley will have them advertised in Saucer News and they can be ordered by mail from him. 57 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,200 Eventually when he gets the ad and I don't know what you should be. 58 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:19,200 Most of these, as a matter of fact, are exclusive to people right into me. 59 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,200 They have never reported these before usually. 60 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:26,200 Or if they've reported to the airport, they've got the usual run around. 61 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:31,200 The first time they've been publicized in any way, this is in my calendar. 62 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:36,200 I get hundreds and hundreds of letters from all these people, very sincere people. 63 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:40,200 No books, or very few books, I figure they're in a very bounding mood. 64 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:46,200 But these people are genuinely sincere about the fact that they've seen something. 65 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,200 And they describe it greatly. 66 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,200 They're very possibly true. 67 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,200 And they often in their letters saying, 68 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,200 What is it Mr. Benders, though I'm supposed to know? 69 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:58,200 Of course all I find is that I wish I knew. 70 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:03,200 But they're genuinely concerned and they know they've seen something real. 71 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:13,200 Many of them are engineers, technical people who can't be fooled by balloons or helicopters or anything like that. 72 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:17,200 They know everything like that they've seen for many, many years. 73 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,200 Have you ever given any lectures yourself on these UFOs? 74 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,200 I've given short lectures. 75 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:26,200 I'm really not that well-versed in the UFO field. I'm still doing a lot of research. 76 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,200 Thank you very much for your time.